Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, youd be hard-pressed to find someone whos actually lost the privilege permanently. MNM8[@w1\J2t_ig VIgM]0%b"fM Sporting goods, kitchen utensils, tools, and other items with sharp edges or points capable of injuring a person. Maybe you should check YOUR attitude! They are not the DEA and yet they end up finding ridiculous amounts of drugs usually because some idiot left a water bottle in the bag. Pilots have a lot more to lose (significant investment in their career, inability to easily switch to a different field with similar compensation, licenses, etc) than flight attendants do. The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) and NATA Compliance Services (NATACS) is pleased to offer the Known CrewmemberProgram (KCM) to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots. The duration of disqualification from participation in KCM is related to the seriousness of the violation and/or a repeated history of regulatory violations. Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. It is incorporated for crewmembers protection and to ensure the integrity of the system. Flight attendants have been the issue with attempting to smuggling things through KCM. Just dump your item, go though screening, exit security and you are reset to try again. The exception is that employees will sometimes be randomly selected to be screened, and the number of random screenings has reportedly increased significantly in recent months (and will continue to increase). Q:What if I have not received a KCM barcode card from my participating airline? I need to hurry up to get to the plane all while not getting paid for it until that boarding door closes. - you would really have more "professionals" and those are less likely to abuse the system. Hopefully, this is thought out carefully, or there will be delays because crewmembers will be held up at security checkpoints. Bag restrictions are in place for the 2022 season. Are you EOD now? I recently took a leave of absence from my airline, am I eligible to use KCM while on leave? <]>> I think they should give a hefty fine and take away the privilege from the individual who couldnt follow the rules. A: No. Unaccompanied Baggage. I am a U.S. airline pilot, and while disappointing, this development was not unexpected. If you have been issued a temporary government issued photo ID and it is your only form of government issued identification, proceed to the passenger screening checkpoint or employee screening location to access the airport sterile area. Why not stop all cars on the highway and search for drugs? It is unfortunate that in 2023, the program may no longer exist for some. TSA has implemented a standardized response from the agency for KCM suspensions and removals rather than relying on agency field operations to implement such measures. I fly for an international freight airline. Meanwhile I have to show my employer issued ID, plus scan a TSA issued barcode identifying me and a 2nd Government issued picture ID (a 3rd ID not in uniform). No more shoes or belts to remove. Yet they pay, through their time and treasure, for the billion searches performed in search of contraband and weapons. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. Im not attacking them personally but if you think they are some highly specialized person they are not. Second, customers are always disappointed when a crew member steps to the front of a line. TSA has determined that certain violations of TSA security requirements by a crewmember are inconsistent with a determination that the crewmember poses a sufficiently low risk to transportation security to be eligible for KCM expedited screening, regardless of whether the violation physically occurred at the KCM access point. endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. If youve not got anything productive to say, just focus on flying the plane. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. INSANE makes NO sense to me No problem. Steve - Did you fly this past year? I would propose that any crew member intentionally engaging in this activity, once caught and verified, be terminated immediately and banned from any job in transport, prosecuted and given an exhorbitant fine, say $100,000. Additionally, authorized crewmembers must not be on a leave of absence greater than 30 days, including furloughs and military duty. Legal Notice: This website is only intended to provide an overview of the Known Crewmember program. The continued success of the program is dependent upon crewmembers demonstrating that they can be trusted to comply with all related requirements. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. Flight attendants and pilots are not similar in importance or security. Keep dreaming. All air carrier employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams and/or random gate screening. Crewmembers should follow TSA instructions and not attempt to resolve the issue with TSA officers as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? For those who abuse the line, like while going to leisure international travel, which is not permitted, an immediate 6 months suspension without pay. {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3 Seriously??? Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. No one would do it. Too bad Clayton Osbon didn't have a gun and kill the fo right? ..and do what with the flight attendants? If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. The protection from unwarranted searching isn't about protecting people carrying contraband. KCM Crewmember definition & requirements: For the purpose of the KCM Program, authorized crewmembers have been defined by the TSA as: Captains or Pilots in Command, First Officers or Co-Pilots, Flight Engineers, Flight Navigators, Flight Attendants and Load Masters for full all-cargo operations. Known Crewmember (KCM) Policy Enhancements -Effective January 13 Beginning on January 13, 2015, Flight Attendants will have the option to transit through the Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) Known Crew Member (KCM) checkpoint not in uniform. knives or knife-like (whether or not made of metal), including leather working knives. Next time you get on a flight that is cancelled or delayed because the crew cant get through security in a timely fashion perhaps you will remember this . And while I'm in line to be scanned throughout the KCM door, they just walk in without ID check. Keyboard warrior.. U must be u spirit employee yo shizzie fly attendant yo. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Maybe the airlines should consider Spandex! Stay mad, enjoy going through the security checkpoint. 11/21/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 6/29/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 3/1/22 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, 6/23/20 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers. So they are more likely to risk their crap paying job (as stated in the article) to make big bucks very easily. We do get front of the line access. We are talking CLASS ACTION lawsuits for piss-poor treatment of crew. 0000060977 00000 n I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. 99.99% of those passengers have done nothing wrong, and are carrying no contraband nor weapons. Get mad at your (and my) own work group. This was discipline issued by the carrier and documented by TSA. There should be employee TSA entrance, no sense of having crews who show up last minute, which is understandable not having an employee entrance. I will however, proceed to explain that there is a necessity to have minimum crew on board to board passengers which I do realize you do not deal with. Instead it should focus on how TSA has become more relaxed and lazy at doing their jobs and are short staffed and dont have officers to man the KCM station so everytime someone gets randomed they are throwing a pissy fit about having to walk over. I've come up with a plan though for my KCM screening, up 75%I now wear flip flops and a Jethro Bodine belt to then get sent to random screening! Maybe a probationary period before they are eligible, idk. General. The MANY should not be punished, just because of the FEW. It truly serves no purpose, even as a deterrent. The REAL problem is that airline management, in conjunction with the FA unions, basically hire anyone with a "pulse" to be a Flight Attendant. Q: What should I do if I encounter a TSA screening officer who does not seem to be applying the KCM requirements correctly? A lot of money from pilot dues was spent by the Air Line Pilots Association to help get the Known Crew Member program going. Your password can only be changed once per 24 hours. Are allowed Liquids, Aerosols and Gels (LAGs) and other exemptions applicable to uniformed flight crewmembers atTSA PreCheck. TSAL may provide the same; subject to advance arrangement made known at least 48 hours before departure. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" Q: I am a crewmember that works for a KCM participating airline. Get your facts straight! Seemingly every airline is telling you to arrive 2-3 hours ahead of time because you never know how many TSA employees showed up that day. If you make it through quickly, then suddenly you have to kill 2 hours in a lounge. I witnessed a pilot trying to bring his teenage son through KCM and getting irate because he was told he couldnt. 0000001822 00000 n If Will is a pilot, it only reinforces the often primadonma, elitist egos of many pilots. I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. Once you arrive at the boarding gate and your pass has not been properly marked by the TSA, you will be sent back to the passenger screening checkpoint for proper screening. Goood good. I've got nothing to hide. This is also known as the 3-1-1 liquids rule. Every pilot knows that you have to have a valid airline employee ID and be verified in the TSA computer database to get through KCM, no exceptions. That is incorrect, KCM has an annual fee usually paid for by the union, company, or individual flight crew members - depending on the company. Crewmembers traveling with pets will be directed to the passenger-screening checkpoint and screened in accordance with TSA screening procedures. At this point just shut it down and make a dedicated TSA precheck line for crew members only to help keep regular lines clear. Ive seen grandpa working like its his second career to stay busy. There's too many crewmembers to have them all go through pre-check. Visit the Consumer Product Safety Commission's website for more information on what items might be subject to a recall. Also keep in mind that when returning to active status there will be a delay in updating your status to active which may result in your inability to use KCM access. I am flight crew, and for all flight crew here talking about going to the end of the line, taking your sweet time to delay the flight, etc.youve got it wrong. Legally, TSA searches are on thin ice with respect to the 4th Amendment. Imagine getting upeset that people smuggling narcotics are getting caught. The ones working the KCM check point are the laziest ones. Our world has changed. It's about protecting those who aren't from the delays and damage caused by the searches. 0000011580 00000 n So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. They may not be used on board . Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. A crewmember will be issued a KCM barcode card from their participating airline management staff. Advertiser Disclosure: Some links to credit cards and other products on this website will earn an affiliate commission. AFA International | Related Searches. The 282-ton . Allowing anyone to bypass security is illogical and needs to stop. Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in security? This is not a U.S. government site. Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. Known Crewmember Fact Sheet (Source: www.knowncrewmember.org) Q. NEWSFLASH: Most hand creams that flight attendants use (#1 preferred product by F/A's is "WORKING HANDS") have glycerine at the VERY TOP of the ingredients list. I agree with you about flight attendants vs pilots. And while I'm in line to be scanned throughout the KCM door, they just walk in without ID check. Ive definitely noticed an increase in random screenings over the last several months. What do you make of the news of the TSA replacing the Known Crewmember Program with Expedited Crew Access? 1. We shouldn't put anything pass anybody. Then you have to listen to passengers complain and ask why your late. Highly incorrect. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to that crewmember, or it might involve a miscommunication with the crewmembers airline database. So there you go. Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. BTW! IATA - Personalised Passport, Visa & Health travel documentation advice Flight attendants do not have as much to loose as a pilot. You guys walk right up to the front of the queue. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. If I'm not trusted, then fine. But this could possibly delay flights guess we'll see. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area. Look, your job could be replaced by a cardboard sign with a red arrow painted on it and a vending machine. Because, trust me, the pilots wont be the ones to help! Just because you hate your life and job doesnt mean everybody else does. KCM does not exempt a crewmember from complying with these additional security measures. That would solve the vast majority of the issues. They are using crew screening issues to say, "Hey - we're doing a great job!" Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in You really need to understand a few basics of airline travel. If the investigation does not result in a regulatory finding, KCM privileges will be restored when the investigation is closed. We have to submit to a background check to even have KCM.. its a shame a few bad incidents have to ruin this privilege,so tired of the public thinking we are provided with so many nice benefits we arent. While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. Must not be in possession of any TSA-prohibited items, weapons, or firearms. We do not speed up the security process because it's busy. Eh? 911? Dont worry though, youll be back groping children in no time. To check up-to-date regulations, prices of extra luggage, an exhaustive list . If they want to look in my bag, no problem. So to clarify, a flight attendant like a pilot is required to do a strenuous background check. Should be required to use clear backpacks or purses to pass security/ metal detectors should be used and nothing else should be allowed on premises. This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. A 14 year old girl flew coast to coast solo, followed by her father, an airline captain in another plane. No other individuals are allowed access in the KCM program. Boohoo. Smuggling drugs or trying to get a weapon through security should be punishable to the people doing it. If the average traveller's time is worth $30 per hour, then an extra 20 minute delay costs $10. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned. HVO@_qIgr&mU%x Jii7l%S~/-iL@+$gh^OFA^ ,=`no~e)b(RJHKiyW:VNXGtZF E`kpn3SkO{ QzW-aIXeAINd~#n"xOZe{u^{OF&kkZ If you have been inactive, on leave, or if you have been temporarily removed from service, you will not have KCM access. I'm also a flight attendant and I don't know about that since it looks like you're happy with arriving an extra couple hours even before your report time at the gate.