It's for practice, not for competition. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. When we are sold out, we are sold out. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. JavaScript is disabled. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I want to be safe. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. I am using CBI pistol powder. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. Wish i could find it again. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . No issues there. I do know its about mid charge range tho. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Display as a link instead, Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Shellholders: Lee #19 I remember seeing something similar here long time back. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. Obligatory start low and work your way up ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. Better to be too careful than blow something up. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? You are using an out of date browser. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. Hodgdon.com says 3.9-4.3gr for LRN. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. Makes an impression on you. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Warning! YMMV. I found anything much lower to be too weak. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . What type of a load are you attempting to develope? She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. This is safe, yes? May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) JavaScript is disabled. . I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. was 1146fps. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. And how are you metering 3.3gr? I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. This powder is very popular. All I had was word of mouth and books. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. FMJ in my XD-9 vel. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. Really..so, how would someone measure that? 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Starting at mid range up to max. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? BrianEnos.com Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! By All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. You cannot paste images directly. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Close w/ TG can be problematic. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. JavaScript is disabled. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. Nuff said. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. In Pistols and Revolvers.. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Why? Paste as plain text instead, Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I sold off all except Titegroup. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). Thanks for your patience. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined and 8 lb. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Loading is always at your own risk. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Your previous content has been restored. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. What is your favorite firearm to load for? Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. Thanks guys. Pasted as rich text. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. Clear editor. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. C.O.A.L. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. JavaScript is disabled. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Probably saved me some money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. and 8 lb. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Is this not a safe load? I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. 3.4 gr. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. It's accurate and reliable. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. looking4reloadingdeals He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. I dont think i would worry about it. . I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. containers. I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. Powered by Invision Community. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed .