9 I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying,my conscience confirmsit through the Holy Spirit—2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart.3 For I could wish that I myselfwere cursedand cut off from Christ for the sake of my people,those of my own race,4 the people of Israel. Not everyone born to Israel is truly Israel, though, Paul writes. I'm not exaggerating—Christ and the Holy Spirit are my witnesses. This is not what the text says. Create or log in to your Bible Gateway account. God Is Calling His People 1-5 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. gives us the metaphor for pulling this together: Careful! Copyright © 2019 by Zondervan. Message. At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. you’ll find me on the way, not in the way. Nov 15, 2014. Romans 9 God Is Calling His People 1-5 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. All your content will be saved and you can seamlessly switch devices. They had everything going for them—family, glory, covenants, revelation, worship, promises, to say nothing of being the race that produced the Messiah, the Christ, who is God over everything, always. God Is Totally Free to Save You. If REPROBATION were true then we might expect verse 22 to read something like this: "the vessels of wrath which HE (God) fitted to destruction." On the contrary, “Your line of descent will be traced through Isaac.” 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are counted as his descendants. Want more information about Bible Gateway Plus? Upgrade to Bible Gateway Plus, and access the NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible notes. They have been given so much as God's chosen people, and Paul insists that God will keep His promises to Israel. 4 I grew up with them. 24 Either or both happens to Jews, but it also happens to the other people. It’s an enormous pain deep within me, and I’m never free of it. If you're looking for me, you'll find me on the way, not in the way. Romans 9 The Message (MSG) God Is Calling His People. If the big decisions are already made, what say do we have in it?”. All Rights Reserved. From the outset, not all Israelites of the flesh were Israelites of the spirit. But the stone is me! God told Rebecca, “The firstborn of your twins will take second place.” Later that was turned into a stark epigram: “I loved Jacob; I hated Esau.”. Not a member? 19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? 6-9 Don’t suppose for a moment, though, that God’s Word has malfunctioned in some way or other. 22 If God needs one style of pottery especially designed to show his angry displeasure 23 and another style carefully crafted to show his glorious goodness, isn't that all right? 10-13 And that’s not the only time. An integrated digital Bible study library - including complete notes from the NIV Study Bible and the NKJV MacArthur Study Bible, 2nd Edition - is just a step away! Chapter 9 brings a slight shift in focus to the Book of Romans. 9 1 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. Not so fast, please. It's the Israelites . They had everything going for them - family, glory, covenants, revelation, worship, promises, 5 to say nothing of being the race that produced the Messiah, the Christ, who is God over everything, always. 1 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. 30 What then shall we say? What God did in this case made it perfectly plain that his purpose is not a hit-or-miss thing dependent on what we do or don’t do, but a sure thing determined by his decision, flowing steadily from his initiative. 1-3 Believe me, friends, all I want for Israel is what’s best for Israel: salvation, nothing less. John Piper Feb 21, 2001 10 Shares It’s the Israelites . 16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 33 As it is written: “See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[m]. Originally published by NavPress in English as THE MESSAGE: The Bible in Contemporary Language copyright 2002 by Eugene Peterson. b) Chapters 9-11 deal specifically with the Jewish nation. Either or both happens to Jews, but it also happens to the other people. The problem goes back a long way. That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; 31 but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. 20 Who in the world do you think you are to second-guess God? The seed of Abraham were not all the elect, adopted children of promise. Romans 9New International Version (NIV) Paul’s Anguish Over Israel. “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? Oh, yes! I’ve put a huge stone on the road to Mount Zion. You’ve already claimed your free trial of Bible Gateway Plus. The Message of Romans: God's Good News for the World (The Bible Speaks Today Series) - Kindle edition by Stott, John. . God doesn’t count us; he calls us by name. 25 Hosea put it well: I'll call nobodies and make them somebodies; I'll call the unloved and make them beloved. 2 It's an enormous pain deep within me, and I'm never free of it. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading The Message of Romans: God's Good News for the World (The Bible Speaks Today Series). 4. I'm not exaggerating - Christ and the Holy Spirit are my witnesses. Now, in Romans 9 through 11, Paul deals with the problem associated with the condition of Israel. John Piper Feb 9, 2003 374 Shares Sermon. Romans 9. 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? Romans 9:9 - MSG - Remember that promise, When I come back next... Study verse in the The Message Hi, Sign out. Home >> Bible Studies >> Romans Studies >> Romans 9:1-13 These small group studies of Romans contain outlines, cross-references, Bible study discussion questions, and applications. In the place where they yelled out, “You’re nobody!”, they’re calling you “God’s living children.”, If each grain of sand on the seashore were numbered. Romans 10:9 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 10:9, NIV: "If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]. I'm not exaggerating—Christ and … I’m in charge of compassion.” Compassion doesn’t originate in our bleeding hearts or moral sweat, but in God’s mercy. The Flexible Potter and Willing Clay. Starting your free trial of Bible Gateway Plus is easy. 30 How can we sum this up? Romans 9 ; ROM 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, ROM 9:2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. Not at all! That means that Israelite identity was never racially determined by sexual transmission, but it was God-determined by promise. It wasn’t Abraham’s sperm that gave identity here, but God’s promise. To Rebecca, also, a promise was made that took priority over genetics. 2 It's an enormous pain deep within me, and I'm never free of it. Do you for one moment suppose any of us knows enough to call God into question? He who is over all, God blessed forever, as to the flesh, the body, He was born of Mary, of the seed royal of that nation. Creating an account allows you to access more features and content such as: Reading the Bible is rewarding, and these plans make it easy! It looks like you’re already subscribed to Bible Gateway Plus! Matthew Henry Bible Commentary (complete), Matthew Henry’s Bible Commentary (concise), California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. . 2 It's an enormous pain deep within me, and I'm never free of it. Clay doesn’t talk back to the fingers that mold it, saying, “Why did you shape me like this?” Isn’t it obvious that a potter has a perfect right to shape one lump of clay into a vase for holding flowers and another into a pot for cooking beans? Therefore hath he mercy on … Arithmetic is not his focus. It's the Israelites...If there were any way I could be cursed by the Messiah so they could be blessed by him, I'd do it in a minute. Compare Matthew 25:34 with Matthew 25:41. 9 For this is the word of promise: "At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son." The problem goes back a long way. Romans 9:15–16 & 18 “For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Romans 9:13.. “This utterance (ἐῤῥέθη) took place in conformity with the expressly testified (in Malachi 1:2-3, freely cited from the LXX.) Don't have an account? “I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people; and I will call her ‘my loved one’ who is not my loved one,”. God has a covenant relationship with … What God did in this case made it perfectly plain that his purpose is not a hit-or-miss thing dependent on what we do or don't do, but a sure thing determined by his decision, flowing steadily from his initiative. John Piper Nov 15, 2014 2 Shares Conference Message. If we can make general comments on what we think Paul was wanting to say. How God Makes Known the Riches of His Glory to the Vessels of Mercy. The problem goes back a long way. Preaching Zeal That Accords with Knowledge. You can cancel anytime during the trial period. Because instead of trusting God, they took over. Scripture: Romans 9:30–10:4. Feb 21, 2001. Isaiah had looked ahead and spoken the truth: If our powerful God had not provided us a legacy of living children,We would have ended up like ghost towns, like Sodom and Gomorrah. Romans 9:22-23. | 814 … Copyright © 1993, 2002, 2018 by Eugene H. Peterson. Scripture: Romans 9:24–10:1. 3 If there were any way I could be cursed by the Messiah so they could be blessed by him, I'd do it in a minute. In some ways, Romans Chapters 9 through 11 is a “repeat” of layout-style of Chapters 1-8. a) The focus of Chapters 1-8 is on mankind in general, and the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ. I'm not exaggerating - Christ and the Holy Spirit are my witnesses. I think … In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children … Romans 9 1 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. It’s an enormous pain deep within me, and I’ had not provided us a legacy of living children, How can we sum this up? Romans 9:1–18 finds Paul heartbroken over the rejection of Christ by his people the Jews. It’s an enormous pain deep within me, and I’m never free of it. 9 1 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. 15 God told Moses, "I'm in charge of mercy. I'm not exaggerating - Christ and the Holy Spirit are my witnesses. 1 At the same time, you need to know that I carry with me at all times a huge sorrow. Published by permission. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Isaiah (again!) they're calling you "God's living children." 9 I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit— 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. I’ll call nobodies and make them somebodies; I’ll call the unloved and make them beloved. Scripture: Romans 9:30–10:4. Take a look at the breakdown of Romans 9 below. [a] Amen. I had my understanding of Romans 9 challenged by another member so I thought it would be helpful to open up a discussion on this. 8 That means that Israelite identity was never racially determined by sexual transmission, but it was God-determined by promise. 21 Isn't it obvious that a potter has a perfect right to shape one lump of clay into a vase for holding flowers and another into a pot for cooking beans? Romans 9:8 "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but … Remember how it was put: "Your family will be defined by Isaac"? © 2020 Christianity.com. Straight Talk About Predestination (Romans 9:19-29) Stumbling Stone or Cornerstone? Arithmetic is not his focus. It's an enormous pain deep within me, and I'm never free of it. Scripture: Romans 9:17–18, Exodus 9:8–17. Because instead of trusting God, they took over. But now another principle is brought out. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! The same point was made when God said to Pharaoh, “I picked you as a bit player in this drama of my salvation power.” All we’re saying is that God has the first word, initiating the action in which we play our part for good or ill. 19 Are you going to object, “So how can God blame us for anything since he’s in charge of everything? They were so absorbed in their “God projects” that they didn’t notice God right in front of them, like a huge rock in the middle of the road. When she became pregnant by our one-of-a-kind ancestor, Isaac, and her babies were still innocent in the womb—incapable of good or bad—she received a special assurance from God. Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. What is the main message and theme. 9 For this was how the promise was stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”[c], 10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. Romans 9 God's Sovereign Choice. Visit our library of inductive Bible studies for more in depth inductive studies on this and other books of the Bible you can use in your small group. 9 Remember that promise, "When I come back next year at this time, Sarah will have a son"? If each grain of sand on the seashore were numbered and the sum labeled “chosen of God,”They’d be numbers still, not names; salvation comes by personal selection.God doesn’t count us; he calls us by name. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. ... Conference Message. 16 Compassion doesn't originate in our bleeding hearts or moral sweat, but in God's mercy. If God needs one style of pottery especially designed to show his angry displeasure and another style carefully crafted to show his glorious goodness, isn’t that all right? 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. Not so fast, please. Feb 21, 2001. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. 33 Isaiah (again!) 32 How could they miss it? Is Free Will Really Free? It's the Israelites . Biblical Commentary (Bible study) Romans 9:1-5 EXEGESIS: ROMANS 9-11: THE CONTEXT Chapters 9-11 form the immediate context, dealing with the question of Jewish unbelief. I’m not exaggerating—Christ and the Holy Spirit are my witnesses. 26 In the place where they yelled out, "You're nobody!" 27 Isaiah maintained this same emphasis: If each grain of sand on the seashore were numbered and the sum labeled "chosen of God," They'd be numbers still, not names; salvation comes by personal selection. They were absorbed in what they themselves were doing. I'm not exaggerating - Christ and the Holy Spirit are my witnesses. 12 God told Rebecca, "The firstborn of your twins will take second place." “In the very place where it was said to them, there they will be called ‘children of the living God.’”. Intro: Paul’s anguish for Israel’s salvation (vv. 17 The same point was made when God said to Pharaoh, "I picked you as a bit player in this drama of my salvation power." 25 As he says in Hosea: “I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people; and I will call her ‘my loved one’ who is not my loved one,”[i], “In the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘children of the living God.’”[j], “Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.28 For the Lord will carry out his sentence on earth with speed and finality.”[k], “Unless the Lord Almighty had left us descendants,we would have become like Sodom, we would have been like Gomorrah.”[l]. All those people who didn’t seem interested in what God was doing actually. NIV Reverse Interlinear Bible: English to Hebrew and English to Greek. Is God unjust? 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