And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! The Lilith person might have trouble with issues surrounding desirability. Planets and asteroids will be modified when they aspect each other, this the possibilities are endless. Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) That is my commitment to my readers. Theyre both devoted and kind people and Ive known her since we were teens. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). I know my life, and what manifests in it. The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. Sorry for the late reply. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. It is really rocking my world right now <3. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? 3. I am prone to being attacked in this way. That doesnt mean youve never been married. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! Everyone should have one once in a lifetime, I suppose. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. I feel like it helps me. I have moon opposition pluto. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. How does that play out? Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. 1) What does it mean to have dejanira 13 in conjuction with my ascendant 12? How would it play out if my boyfriends Dejanira is conjunct my venus/juno conjunction but my venus/juno is part of a grand trine with my midheaven and also my moon/Bella/mars/pluto conjunction? His Eros is on her Descendant and her Eros makes a square to his Sun and conjuncts his Vertex. This isn't always a bad thing, however. Does nessus still be working as a tendency to abuse? This is a general rule, my Friend. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. there is no contact in real life anymore but the connection via the sexual chakra (either sacral or root chakra ) is still there and very strong. The puzzle pieces are coming together for me.. finally. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. Good afternoon, thank you for this article Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. Nessus is the abusers asteroid. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. If the man is the Dejanira, he would be the victim. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. Thank you for your comment. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. orb). I would need to see more, Jenn! Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. (double-whammy..) What does this conjunction mean in a synastry? What does that mean? It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Sun You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. I reply to the comments out of order because I do it on the central comment form. The first would be Nessus. That`s very interesting information. 2021 - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? Not eros. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. I have to always be honest. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. Mars conj Saturn is not good. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. As such, I would be careful and watchful. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? Thank you Ariel! Would you liken moon/pluto dynamics to an 8th house moon overlay? I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? That never ceases to amaze me, either! Will be keeping my wits about me. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. What would that mean? In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring, changing our lives in intense and lasting ways. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. Does this mean anything? The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. These aspects or connections have a "mean't to be" feel to them, it's a potent place to look at in synastry. Thank you for this information! I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. . A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Theyre still deeply in love and their synastry and composite charts support it. His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. First of all Lilith is for . We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. It can be done but it is rare that someone reaches that level of spiritual mastery. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. would you please shed some light as you see fit? Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. Sorry, lol. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. I am looking to add 5 more aspects and would love your opinions! The same with nessus conjunct ASC? They made my day, Jeanie. I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. Do you see what I mean. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. It always starts this way. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. Youll have to use your judgement here. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? Thanks you, Jos. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. The chart shows the TRUTH. Would appreciate some insight!! Thanks :), or you consider just the closer orbit? I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. Who does whom, so to speak? I could not agree more with this. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. Where did you get these theories from? I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? Ami, hello. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. There is always a risk with Eros when he falls on a personal planet of point, and meeting Lilith is the greatest of them. Priapus is likewise called a "minor rustic God" or even "an oversexed gardening God." I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. But interested to see how things unfold. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? This will be HOT. Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. so, quick question, where do I post it? Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. the Moons will make for best friends. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. "I want to welcome you to my website. Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. It can ruin possible healthy relationships. I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. That is why it feels so life and death. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. It is opinion, not truth. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. If your Dejanira conjuncts his ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. You have such a sweet spirit. In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. I mean, a persons life is complicated. Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. Lilith conjunct Ascendant his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. This is not a dark aspect, either. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. Thank you, Amiann. Lilith and Ceres conjunct in the synastry chart Your rebellious free spirit and nurturing sides are enmeshed. My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. In this case Nessuus is retro in conjunction with the North node. I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. I do charts for the people who want them. I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. My main point is reflection. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? Yes, that is a good way to put it. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Not sure which one id prefer. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . This is not to say it would be better or even easier. It may be off a few minutes and change things. in case his vertex in my moon and ascendant *. We also have mars opposite pluto (Im pluto) in synastry. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. Try to post the charts so see a visual! The conjunction is excact. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT I would say no, but I am not the last word in anything. Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. I am one person with one persons experience, of course. What about this aspects? His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.".