So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. The detective told her that he couldn't destroy the files, but he closed the case that day. Lorenzo, Ive read all your posts and you are so full of hate and . 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. I did not start the Monday discussion on baptism nor yesterdays on end times. Perhaps Michael or Alex could follow up with that and find out. http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/78354908268/nothing. 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Contents show Robert J. My ex CC pastor is following Coy in his vision of mult-sites and to me its just not a good vision at all especially when the pastor falls like this. one more thing. CC will be ok, they will experience a separation of the wheat from the chaff which is healthy the sad part is there will be a number that like Peter will go back fishing but even they will not be lost if their heart truly is the Lords. {P} , , , - , , , . I am curious about when men have this happen to them (especially if theyre caught as opposed to confessing) if there are other issues that need to be looked at? On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. One of the gals from Saturday Night live attended- I forget her name and they really used that to their advantage-she was mentioned. So where do you attend church? It took him completely by surprise and his first concern was for the church. He boasted of a vast media reach. I weep for his wife and family. It is never healthy. So engaging with a second person right now, not interested. As his star rose and his congregation grew into the tens of thousands, the Sun Sentinel solicited weekly faith columns written by Coy. of course not, youll jump somewhere else. Anyone can fall at anytime ! Conflicting . Deal with that and then come talk to me. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1 ESV). I know the solution is to get right with many people that were hurt. David, Jerry Falwell despised Bakker because of his theology and his lifestyle. Im not too concerned about Bob Coy right now. I would hope all even those closely associated and even directly hurt would dig deeply to not bring more disappointment to Christ by acting in a Unchristian like manner. Boy do you have to stretch to believe this stuff. Problem is it turns into pride and a business instead of a ministry. So much happened in so short a time-it seemed that after moving from the warehouse to the new building, things exploded. Maybe I dont have the steps in order but you get my drift. Wow, Michael does have some standards, so thats what it takes, not gossip and slander and outright fabrications, but some foul language to wrap up the crap thats being dished out here! You and I argue a lotbut Im in agreement with you on this matter. I believe it was originally 103 until those 2 donors backed out. From what I understand, many employed knew something was going down for a long time. He resigned. He was already richI, Ive seen people get black balled by him..now the shoe is on the other foot , Id like to know how long this s.. went on and the people who knew said nothing out of fear of losing their job. According to sources familiar with the matter, Coy confessed to key leaders on Wednesday. He has also been teaching for even longer that the blood of Jesus Christ has no power to save. After his preaching career ended, he landed work managing the Funky Biscuit, a nightclub in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. It can be if you want it that way here, after all, it is your blog. #RealLove. Mark this day April 8, 2014 and remember my words! 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, 35 until I make your enemies your footstool., 36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.. Lots of folk come to a blog to vent. It's October 2017, and Bob Coy hunches over a laptop in a far corner of the Funky Biscuit, a dimly lit club in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. 1. ", "I haven't prayed enough for my Pastor Bob and his family," Beth Graber wrote. Im a little slow like that. What does that tell you? A few years back after leaving the church I found some old cassette tapes and his messages were less funny and more serious. The criteria for judging is that you have to be willing to be judged by the same measure! Do you think the bottomless pit actually has a padlock? Comment. He was the son of Joe Gibbs, a five-time NASCAR Cup Series championship winning owner and Pro Football Hall of Famer. Just as Peter recovered after his denial of Christ. Sources tell Charisma News there was a positive response from the staff and congregation. These teachings which give rise to anti-Semitism and go against Gods word which says, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you, then yes that is garbage! I completely agree with Michelle @175. Have you ever had a hairball? | (Screenshot: YouTube/Liberty University) Bob Coy, founder of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale in Florida who resigned as senior pastor over moral failings in 2014, has been accuse I empathize with those of you who have have called Bob your Pastor. I dont understand the part about bringing pride into this in some of the comments. When Jesus said The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. he was not saying. Moniker perversion sorry for the T trouble. Im sure he was forced to leave and CC is doing everything they can to make sure that he will not be remembered. In one case, victims claimed the church knowingly moved a pedophile to another city without warning parents. He is in the pit, chained and bound? It is pride that is the root of that sin. The case was thus closed and made "inactive" in October 2015 pending the victim's cooperation. Paul dealt with this. Facebook gives people the power to share. You didnt have the integrity and honesty to answer my question, and now you want me to answer yours! We gotta start getting this right. (Update: The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy and says it had no inkling of the allegations against him.) Coral Ridge is a congregation of the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA). So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news.. 5. So all of a sudden it was announced to the congregation that he would be leaving in 2 weeks. Bob Coy is a man.one of the main problems with sheep is that they start to put too much into the pastor, instead of putting it all on the Lord. Those that think me wrong for doing so, should set the example for me, and let it go. If so, how did He seek The Lord through study and prayer? 6 And the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Although, he DID go before the congregation and HIS troubled marriage didnt lead to a sexual encounter. Cue the anthem.. Its crazy that people think Bob Coy had ONE affair, caught a conscience about it and decided to step down. 5And one of the elders said to me, Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals. 6And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Chuck Smith did it to mehe got diagnosed with cancer a month laterdied a year later to the day. I love my husband and I dont want to be divorced, but when things have been unhappy between us, I have had to literally run away from sin because I was tempted to allow someone else to give me emotional support that should have come from my own husband, but wasnt at the time. Hopefully you will send this message you posted, to them in email. There are a lot of Calvary Chapelites out there that almost worship Bob more than Christ. Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. They have been given that power, as was Coy. MLD- Jesus wasnt literal and theres no book in your hand. When he went back to CCFL by then many family members from another state arrived and had jobs waiting for them at CCFL. I think so in time. She and others back their words of welcome to you with their sincere words of prayer for you. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. I have been lurking the past few days and your rabid attacks on Michael are evidence of your profound dissatisfaction with yourself and your need to project your own dissonance on him, me or others who you refuse to dialog with. Please download this free book to help men you know establish Gospel-centered accountability that lasts: Coming Clean: Overcoming Lust Through Biblical Accountability. http://www.covenanteyes.com/accountability-partner-ebook/, I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct, Having read some of the comments posted, I am dissapointed at the lack of compassion and those with self-righteous attitudes. Thoughts and prayers go out to a fallen brother, his wife and children, his church family and the church leadership as they determine the scriptural course of action. I am telling them to let him recover his heart, name and honor. In the same vein, Sharon had no cause for alarm. Two thirds of the congregation will be seated already knowing. I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. You become an accuser of the brethren for the sake of your worship. Dear Lorenzo, you know so little of genuine Christianity, and you know nothing of me or others here. I have had pets with more emotional and spiritual maturity than you. In fact, he says Capitol Records paid him to party. Note that MLDs hateful 695 doesnt even consider my 694, about unnecessary strong verbiage. he made a huge mistake. Power corrupts. Thanks for your words. Its not that I am questioning you, just that what you say rings truer to what I have heard in the past. I am not too sure he wanted a small group of believers because the building kept getting larger to accommodate all that were being brought in. The good works and true worship rendered to Jesus by the people in this fellowship need to honored, promoted and protected within a leadership environment that regards Jesus and holy and true or they need to be redirected and redeployed elsewhere . Why was he bound and have we seen the results of that binding? Time will tell. (RNS) Florida megachurch pastor Bob Coy has resigned from his 20,000-member Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale congregation over a moral failing., A statement on the churchs website reported the news: On April 3, 2014, Bob Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, effective immediately, after confessing to a moral failing in his life which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church he has led since its founding in 1985.. I know it is difficult to understand that something good will come from this. Remember how many people he has helped. This is not a time to gloat that a prominent CC pastor has fallen. You have no idea how enamored people are with this man. I think that would be helpful to know. This is all speculativebut something I know all too well. He wrote a very good book, I Was Wrong in 1996. Even though Bode needed surgery, he wasnt anxious about it. Yes I do. Just saying. 22:20), The Lord Jesus Christ commands all believers to proclaim the gospel throughout the world and to make disciples of all nations. Bob, in my opinion, respects people that challenge him because hes a competitive type of guy but bring your A game. We have confirmed that Coy has admitted to at least . I dont know if I can remember everything I said. Fidel has mentioned cheating on Theresa several, several times during his sermons. "But we need to remember it is Jesus Christ who is our leader and not man.". Theres also much to say about when they began having auctions at the church. We are all human and all the same essentiallythough fundamentalist Islam seems to be the worst religious ideology of all-time and the most dangerous and destructive. . Thanks for sharing that Laura. BC did not write his sermons as I understand it. He was divided, must have been tormenting at some point? Larry Erickson, later the chief designer of the Mustang and Thunderbird for Ford Motor Co., worked with Coddington early on, and specifically credits the CadZZilla collaboration for jump-starting his career. Just saying maybe. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said: 15 So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Deal with it and may your curse not come back on you. Antonio, No I have not been tempted but I have always made sure that i never put myself in the position to be tempted. My sources (multiple) are accurate. to attract a crowd, something is wrong. It shows just how broken the Calvary System is. Restoration is step three. This doesnt directly have to do with the issue on hand but just some insight .. Nero was certainly anti-Christ though I personally would not ascribe the definite article. And then others might go in the other direction. His daughter, Janette Manderson, and his widow, Kay, sued the organization, alleging its leaders conspired to take over Smith's empire and even denied him emergency medical care on his deathbed. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians. Right now, my concern is for the wife, the children, and the congregation. Those who understood their own propensity, weakness and past personal sins and failures might be better off placing a hand over their mouths and silently praying for mercy to be extended to this man and his family. The strange thing is that Mark was with Bob for almost the entire 30 years as his #1 right hand man and Mark was a brilliant businessman. Someone earlier said that porn is a symptom. Michael is a Calvinist. Who is his congregation? The pain of church shopping is excruciating, especially since last time I was at Potential I was in tears over the horror I experienced there. Antonio- its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. Go to Him as a child and offer your heart as a servant He will guide your steps. Arent you embarrassed by what comes out of your brain? All the best that money can buy. Youre just twisting Acts 2. If our practice (fruit) is sinful, does that not cast question upon our doctrine? Michael Newnham, a pastor from Oregon whose blog "Phoenix Preacher" details the scandals swirling around Calvary Chapel, pointed to sources claiming that Coy is trying to mobilize investors, because he wants "back in the game.". These pastors are lifted up and deified and made into celebrities, so then it becomes Bob Coys church Raul Riess church Greg Lauries church instead of the Church of Jesus Christ, and when these men fall the little gods we had erected fall and then we can hear God say, I am God and I am still on the throne!. I never missed a weekday or weekend service. But with false doctrine he said But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray.. Michael has his little posse of the usual suspects, always looking for a lynching, like circling vultures at the scent of a wounded sojourner, depart from me for I never knew you, you workers of iniquity! Are the words those of your ilk will ever hear unless you repent, you shall know them by their fruits, and your fruit stinks! Michael, mainstream christian media is PR only. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. I honestly applaud you. Hugh. The sin that I spoke about happened 24 years ago, but the hurt caused is still fresh in my heart. Flynn, And no I dont listen to Chuck Missler or have a Schofield, I just read the Bible, you should try it sometime!. Coy and his family are OUR FAMILY IN CHRIST! I got tired of responding to the nonsense. on and on ad nauseum ] The real power wont be shown by succumbing to any of these dangers. Please click here to learn how. Michael, I do believe weve had this discussion in the past in much detail, so no point in rehashing. She told Payne she was "moving tomorrow [overseas] on a mission trip with the church, and asked if it was possible to destroy any record of [her] abuse," the detective wrote in a closeout memo. Just saying. Bob got caught with the constables 17 yr old daughter and he had paid for the abortion?? How can we middle aged women compete with an image of a physically perfect 25 year old? We will all disappoint others, we all sin, but Christ will always be there for us and will never let us down. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Messiah! or, There he is! do not believe it. All folks pretty much have a good sense of right and wrong whether or not they are saved by an evangelical gospel construct. Ive sat under some horrible pastors that taught fairly well. I know this to be true because you have stated many times that you read only the Bible. (My friend and I agreed to disagree about Coys handling of Scripture..or, the lack thereof, deciding it would be best to study separately rather than keeping our yearly tradition of doing a combined study.) Lets go after Bob and not let him go from our love in Christ! MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way., LOL. Decades of life wasted. The women werent in a position of power and trust and in covenant with another woman. But since returning to South Florida, he's spent most nights here, helping run the Funky Biscuit a late return to his music industry roots. Glory(Pride) Gold-(Obtaining personal financial advancement from the ministry) Girls-(giving in to self serving sexual pleasure from Women) I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. calvaryftl.org is wasting no time wiping out the name of Bob Coy from their webpage. All over FB all the loyal supporters from his church are posting what I view as self-righteous comments. The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. You give yourself a severe disadvantage by doing so, whenever you are discussing doctrine with someone. Some knew that the building that was built for the H.S. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. Power corrupts and if you know your pastor isnt Jesus, then dont tempt him and stumble him with all that power that only a Jesus wouldnt be corrupted by. 7. To "avoid substantial injury" to Coy's former employer Calvary Chapel according to the court file. or fornication? I disagree with Smith on losing salvation (I dont believe you can lose salvation), on counting a generation from the re-establishment of Israel, on the resurrection body. If you were trying to help and that help in some way exposed something evil-there were plans to rid of you. Im glad its yours and yours alone, this way perhaps you might just keep your hypocrisy to yourself, just be ready that when you judge a man, you are ready to be judged as well! While you are rejoicing in the fall of another you should do your home work and renounce you idol worship of your anti-Jewish god Luther, along with the gracious burn them at the stake unrepented Calvin. And btw, to anon Im guessing you have never ever ever commented on Ted Haggart, Jim Bakker, your boss, neighbor, etc. why do the most ardent Coy defenders have to use capital letters and too much punctuation? Another explosive comment on the other blog about Coy. [10] "I had been invited to his house for Christmas dinner and I skipped it," Coy told Stetzer. Andrew, Michale requested that theological debates cease immediately, to let people here grieve if they so choose. It hasnt and will never happen. Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . Im concerned with those whose lives have been shattered by Bob Coys choices. But to be honest, I dont think eschatology should be a dividing line doctrine that some folks put it into. No one will recognize him on the beaches of South France or strolling through Florence. Daughter- Interesting because I understood that BC did not write his own sermons. By 1986, his church had outgrown the funeral parlor and attracted about 1,200 regulars to an Oakland Park chapel. Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. He threw away everything, his family, his vows, his integrity, his reputation is forever damaged..why??? So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. This is a test from God and you have failed it miserably my friend. Your blessed sermons brought so many to the Lord. I bet the line of women giving interviews is long and loud. You made a freshman mistake. What are my options if the operation goes wrong? Yes or no. Coys teaching was always excellent. I too had moral failure well after I stepped away from staff. Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. He even had his own brother stand in front of thousands to apologize. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale spokesman Mike Miller said Monday the church was not commenting beyond its statement. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. I wonder if MLD has ever been tempted, and is not realizing that anyone of us could fall given the right circumstances. He confessed to his moral failing and is focusing his time on repairing his relationship with God and his family. Does that corroborate with what youve heard? Repeat. Coy was banging 2 woman in the last year if not more where was his brain??? A look ahead at Blue Bloods Season 13 Episode 15. Lets not use this thread for our personal theological musings, please. It was like everyone was in a daze. Im still waiting for Super Troopers 2 over here, but will have to check out Goonies 2 as well . Thank you for the correction. And if you read June one of the comments I believe she really got it right. He can't be put in a position of power ever again," Newnham stressed. It was not readily available. I found it accidentally on Google. Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. MLD wrote: But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. 22 IF THOSE DAYS HAD NOT BEEN CUT SHORT, NO ONE WOULD SURVIVE, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. As of September 2017 1,800 churches operated with locations in all 50 states across the United States of America, and others internationally. 29 Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. All Scripture is self-attesting and being Truth, requires our unreserved submission in all areas of life. A Calvary Chapel member named Rodger Thomas was arrested that year and charged with repeatedly molesting a 15-year-old girl at a high school run by the church. If this is untrue or these are unlawfully exaggerated claims the. , --; , . In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. What Happened to Aunt Diane? I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. #464, Unfortunately, I see this all over the place in American evangelicalism. "If you're angry or you're disillusioned or you're fearful, if you embarrass yourself or you disappoint yourself he can take all the mess and turn it into something beautiful.".